Re: Security followup

Subject: Re: Security followup
From: Paul DuBois <paul -at- kitebird -dot- com>
To: "TECHWR-L" <techwr-l -at- lists -dot- raycomm -dot- com>
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 13:27:05 -0600


On Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 11:25:04AM -0800, Decker F. Wong-Godfrey wrote:
> Andrew Plato wrote:
>
> >Remember, most hackers use Linux. Hence, they know how to hack Linux boxes
> >really well.
>
> How many attacks are done by "Hackers" compared to the number done by
> "script kiddies?" Script kiddies don't need to know anything about the
> system they are breaking (and often don't), they just need to be able to
> run a program. Script kiddies are the ones who have the time and the
> inclination to break boxes, to make a name for themselves. The "Hacker"
> is a relative anomaly.

And this is relevant how? It doesn't really matter *who* runs the script.

Also, without hackers, you have no script kiddies. Hackers do the work
that leads to the tools run by script kiddies.


> And the fact that the Hacker decides to run Linux says something about
> the relative security of a Linux system, doesn't it?

Not necessarily. It may say that Linux is more fun to play with, or that
Windows is a terrible development environment. Or both.

> If your statement was in fact true, then we'd see a lot more rootkits
> for Linux systems, we'd see more script kiddies out there breaking
> through back doors--but we don't.

Sure we do. I have no idea what your basis for saying this is.
Linux boxes get rooted all the time. I'd agree that Linux is more
secure than Windows (what isn't?), but that's no grounds for not
paying a *lot* of attention to making your system secure -- Windows
*or* Linux.


I kinda wonder how many techwrlers are using Linux, though?


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Re: Security followup: From: Andrew Plato
Re: Security followup: From: Decker F. Wong-Godfrey

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