RE: This year's salary survey-same old same old

Subject: RE: This year's salary survey-same old same old
From: "Neumann, Eileen" <ENeuman -at- franklintempleton -dot- ca>
To: "TECHWR-L" <techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com>
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 15:32:17 -0500


I think the point is not that new people make more than 'old' people in the same position, but that men may be more likely to switch companies to get a promotion or better paying work. You may be a star at what you do for your company, but there's no position available to be promoted to there. And there may be excellent reasons for not moving, some that may apply especially to women, such as you mention...

Eileen Neumann
Business Rules and Procedures
Franklin Templeton Investments

-----Original Message-----
From: Wright, Lynne [mailto:lwright -at- positron911 -dot- com]
Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 3:23 PM
To: TECHWR-L
Subject: RE: This year's salary survey-same old same old


Oh jeez. So now, in addition to worrying that the two new guys we just hired
are making more than me because they are male, now its likely that they are
getting paid extra for being new?

That SO nuts! You'd think having more experience in your workplace (and all
the accured knowledge that that implies) PLUS the element of
dedication/loyalty to the corp would count for MORE!

Just one thing though, about job mobility in males vs. females... i'd have
been out looking for a higher paying position with less grief years ago, if
i wasn't a single mom. I can't afford the risk of switching jobs, then as
the newbie, being the first to go next time NASDAQ tumbles.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 3:15 PM
To: TECHWR-L
Subject: Re: This year's salary survey-same old same old



As a manager, I have always worked to ensure that salaries for my staff
members are based solely on the extent to which they achieved their
objectives, with a little extra credit to those who manage to do so with
less personal monitoring and/or project direction from me. In cases
where I have assumed management of existing depts, I have found that
salaries were almost always skewed in favor of those who were the
most recent additions to staff, which may explain in part what the survey
shows. I have observed that men tend to change jobs in search of higher
salaries and grade advancements more readily than women do. However,
that is solely my own observation based on people I have known or
worked with. I have no idea whether there are any comprehensive
statistics on this.

Gene Kim-Eng




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