re: Giving up on XML

[eric -dot- dunn -at- ca -dot- transport -dot- bombardier -dot- com]

"Sean Hower" <hokumhome -at- freehomepage -dot- com> wrote:
> As for XML and whether one should use it, etc etc etc, XML is a 
technology like .... sort of .... html. 
Except that HTML can be XML and is most certainly SGML.
>DocBook or XML, that's perfectly okay. :-)
Except, once again, DocBook *IS* XML. Unless you're using the SGML 
DocBook.

>then you can try one of the MANY other dialects out there, like DITA.
If you have difficulty understanding FrameMaker, changing templates isn't 
likely to help much.

>Other than that, let me just say I agree--mostly--with what Eric Dunn has 
been saying on this thread. ;-) Mostly.

Thanks.
I did find an old post of mine that addressed some of the exact same 
issues:
"Re: XML-based Help Authoring tools for customized help"

> and the word "DocBook" can also legitimately be used to refer to the
> combination of the DTD and that tool chain. Both Sean and 
> Bill used it in
> that sense. It was in that sense the I compared Docbook to
> Word or Frame and
> in that sense the comparison is perfectly applicable.

And that is where much of this unresolvable discussion derails itself. 
No-one is using the same definitions. If Docbook is a toolchain, then you 
if you have FrameMaker installed, you have Docbook. If Sean and Bill are 
referring to another tool chain, then let's here which tool accomplishes 
which task at which point and why that tools is best. What are the 
advantages or disadvantages.

Let's have a really intelligent discussion and split each thought to the 
thread in which it belongs.

What are the advantages/disadvantages of the Docbook DTD.
What are the advantages/disadvantages of various editors.
What are the advantages/disadvantages of various validators/parsers.
What tools are available for Docbook, what toolsets are available.
What are the advantages/disadvantages of these toolsets.
How customisable are the toolsets.

Eric L. Dunn
Senior Technical Writer

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