RE: "Up with which I will not put" (was: RE: "and then, " or simply "then"?)

Subject: RE: "Up with which I will not put" (was: RE: "and then, " or simply "then"?)
From: "Downing, David" <DavidDowning -at- users -dot- com>
To: "Odile Sullivan-Tarazi" <odile -at- mindspring -dot- com>
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:29:24 -0500

Okay. Bad example. Let's try another one. It is grammatically incorrect
to split infinitives. Yet, the phrase, "To boldly go where no man has
gone before," is famous in cult classic TV history. I don't think that,
"To go boldly where no man has gone before," would have sounded nearly
as cool.

-----Original Message-----
From: Odile Sullivan-Tarazi [mailto:odile -at- mindspring -dot- com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 2:09 PM
To: Downing, David
Cc: techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com
Subject: "Up with which I will not put" (was: RE: "and then," or simply
"then"?)


Actually, this sentence is *not* grammatically correct, nor does it
illustrate the absurdity (though it purports to) one frequently finds
oneself in by attempting to never end on a preposition. The phrase
"to put up with" is a phrasal verb, and it must be kept intact.

But it's still funny.



Odile



At 12:40 PM -0500 9/24/08, Downing, David wrote:
>------------------------------
>
<snip>
>
>But this reminds me of a famous example of a sentence that's
>grammatically correct, yet sounds very awkward and unnatural. The
>speaker was talking about ending a sentence with a preposition, and
>said, "This is a practice up with which I will not put."
>
>I agree that glaringly bad grammar is disturbing, and that as writers,
>we should always show others, by example, the correct way to do things.
>But when it gets to the point of writing statements that sound
downright
>unnatural, that's another story.
>
>David
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