Re: Fed up with Eric's Rules

[Pluciennik Tytus <tytusp -at- ADLEX -dot- COM>]

I tend to agree!

Tytus Pluciennik,
Gdansk, Poland
tytusp -at- adlex -dot- com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Nichols [SMTP:mark2051 -at- YAHOO -dot- COM]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 1998 4:51 PM
> To:   TECHWR-L -at- LISTSERV -dot- OKSTATE -dot- EDU
> Subject:      Fed up with Eric's Rules
>
> For too long, Eric Ray has controlled and restricted information on
> this list.  When people have raised controversial, inflammatory, or
> decisive topics, he has stopped the threads, issued his idiotic little
> ADMIN posts, and removed members who expressed their ideas. Eric might
> not have a responsibility to publish, but he has taken his job as list
> moderator WAY too far.  He has gone beyond merely policing the group,
> to practicing full-scale censorship and  ppression.
>
> A growing number of us are sick and tired of his  fascist rules.
> Under the guise of moderating this group to only talk about technical
> communication, Eric wipes out all dissension and topics which he
> personally feels are irrelevant.  Hey Eric - some of us would like to
> hear those ideas!
>
> In the last three months, Eric has removed scores of members for
> violations of his intolerant rules.  This list has become a laughing
> stock of the technical communications community.  Some writers find
> this list so horrible, they will not even accept posts forwarded from
> the list.  My manager thinks this list is a utter and complete waste
> of time. The woman in the cube next to me dropped off the list almost
> a year ago.  Her reasons "nothing even remotely interesting is ever
> discussed on the list.  That guy controls every word on there. You
> can't post anything without a nasty message from him."
>
> Recently, Eric removed George Mena for his ideas about confrontations
> between men and women - While Mr. Mena's ideas were controversial,
> they were also a legitimate opinion about workplace confrontations.
> Because the sensitives of a few meek readers were offended, we missed
> the opportunity to explore Mr. Mena's ideas.
>
> In a removal a few months back, Eric kicked a member off because he
> made a public attack on Eric's ridiculous warnings about the use of
> sexist language.
>
> In his most recent removal, Eric kicked off Andrew Plato, for his
> biting and hilarious satire of the Ugly Incident thread.  I loved Mr.
> Plato's posts.  They were often the brightest thing on this list.
>
> I am sick and tired of every interesting or remotely controversial
> idea being squashed on this list.  I have another account on this
> list.  I made this "phantom" account so Eric could not kick the "real
> me" off. The fact is, I know that if I made these complaints through
> my "real account" Eric would kick me off in an instant.
>
> So, I am asking everyone to leave this list and begin using the
> listserv newsgroup rather than this mailing list.  The newsgroup is
> bit.listserv.techwr-l.  You will need a news reader to access this
> newsgroup.  You can access the newsgroup through www.dejanews.com.
> Anyone can post to the news group, regardless of being an "approved
> user."  This will allow for a freer exchange of ideas and information.
>
> Moreover, if you use a news reader like Outlook Express or Netscape,
> you can scan the topics and read only those threads that interest you.
> It might be a little more chaotic than this list - but at least we'll
> have the freedom to express our opinions without Eric being our mother
> telling us what we can and cannot read.
>
> Also, there is an effort underway to create a new newsgroup called
> alt.writing.technical.  I have also contacted a few people about
> setting up a web site with a discussion forum.  The people I have
> talked to all agree, this list is a complete joke and needs to be
> abandoned - those that like sanitized crap can remain behind.
>
> I encourage the members of this list who desire a more open and free
> exchange of information to stop using this list and start posting to
> the newsgroup.
> I will keep everyone updated to our activities through other "phantom"
> accounts on this list.
>
> Incidentally, Eric, myself and others hold numerous "phantom" accounts
> on this list.  To be blunt, you cannot stop these message by merely
> kicking me and my colleagues off. We can sign up a virtually unlimited
> number of "phantom" accounts due to the way this list is structured.
>
>
> Signed,
> Technical Communicators for free communication.
>
>
>
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