RE: Firefox vs IE - help

Subject: RE: Firefox vs IE - help
From: "Gordon McLean" <Gordon -dot- McLean -at- GrahamTechnology -dot- com>
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 07:44:27 +0100

Tables are for data.

CSS is better used for layout.

I'm done with this, I will NOT be preached to, I've followed this very
discussion since the first CSS spec was announced. I have coded websites by
hand in Notepad since 1994 (before there were tables at all). This is not
"hype" or boom and bust. This is fact.

If you are using tables for layout then you are adding complexity and
time/money to a project. Regardless of the size of that project.

If you are happier using a semi-WYSIWYG tool, then fine. But you aren't
really part of this discussion, as you probably (and rightly) have no
interest in the generated code, as long as it LOOKS OK.

I too am uncompromising on this. You may save time NOW by sticking with
tables for layout (on ANY size of website) but in the long term that all
adds up to a LOT of time wasted if you want to change something simple in
the layout... Or even switching to something more complex (what is the easy
way to move a left-hand navigation column, to the right, using tables?? CSS
is a few lines of editing).

Each to their own of course but, presuming you are working on a website that
is more than a few pages wide or deep, as a web design methodology,
CSS-based layout is "right".

I'm dropping out of this now. It's getting silly.

Knock yourself out with your tables,

Gordon




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To: Gordon McLean
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Subject: RE: Firefox vs IE - help

That doesn't work so well when you have many projects.

I prefer to pick the tool for the task. For a wedding site, I'd use simple
HTML with a focus on browser compatibility.

For anything more complex, I'd spend time writing scripts and then use
widely compatible HTML 4 for the generated code. If your website is more
than five pages, there's no excuse for having a static site -- it doesn't
make sense in this day and age, especially with so many good and free
content management systems available.

http://www.cmsmatrix.org/

You'll notice I'm somewhat uncompromising on this. After living through the
dot-com hype, and bust, I'm very leery of what the two primarily delusional
groups (corporates and open sourcers) advocate, because it's usually very
far from the truth that people must live if they actually care about getting
something done. Word to the wise from someone who's been around the curve on
this one...

--- Gordon McLean <Gordon -dot- McLean -at- GrahamTechnology -dot- com> wrote:

> Personally I think it's worth the time and effort to learn the basics,
> grab a template, and use that.

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