Re: STC is broken?

["Suzette Leeming" <suzette -dot- leeming -at- gmail -dot- com>]

Your statement, "I bet the same people would be able to find a way to get
into the city for a free dinner in a fine restaurant and Broadway show once
a month." was what I was responding to. I just wanted to state that wasn't
the case in my situation. I can't even think of a substitution for a "free
dinner in a fine restaurant and a Broadway show" that would make it even
more likely for me to make that commute.

Suzette

On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 1:20 PM, Leonard C. Porrello <
Leonard -dot- Porrello -at- soleratec -dot- com> wrote:

>  I'm confused. I don't see the contradiction between what I wrote and what
> you wrote. To the contrary, the caveats to every statement you made support
> what I said or implied. I don't know what you thought I said or why you felt
> "compelled" to write.
>
>
>
> You seem to have gotten lost in the free dinner AND show. Let me clarify.
> The free fine dinner and Broadway show—every month—were only examples. They
> are things I find attractive, but you can substitute whatever else you'd
> prefer or think "absolutely necessary". The point is, you don't find STC
> meetings "absolutely necessary" or even otherwise compelling enough to
> warrant a trip.
>
>
>
> I never said that $25 was too costly in general. I suggested that people
> are unwilling to spend even $25 if they think that $25 can bring a better
> ROI elsewhere.
>
>
>
> You said you would go to meetings—ONLY "IF" you find one will benefit you.
> How does this contradict the idea that people don't attend meeting because
> they don't offer a good enough ROI?
>
>
>
> Leonard C. PoRRello
>
>
>   ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Suzette Leeming [mailto:suzette -dot- leeming -at- gmail -dot- com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 29, 2008 8:44 AM
> *To:* Leonard C. Porrello
> *Cc:* John Posada; Rick Stone; techwr-l List
> *Subject:* Re: STC is broken?
>
>
>
> I thought I'd said all I need to say on this issue, but I feel compelled
> to respond to some of Mr. Porello's comments regarding the commute time/cost
> to meetings, since this is frequently my situation. I don't live in the
> city, but I would be more likely to commute to an STC meeting than I would
> be to attend a "free" dinner or a show in the city. I only go into the city
> when absolutely necessary. In my area, there are many excellent restaurants
> and theatres outside of the city and closer to home.
>
> The $25 amount is neither here nor there. If I perceived more value, I
> would willingly spend it.
>
> I am keeping an eye on the various topics offered at my chapter's
> meetings, and if I find one that I think will benefit me, then I will make
> the effort to get to the meetings.
>
> As someone else (sorry I forget who) previously stated, the publications
> provided by my membership is my prime reason for joining/belonging.
>
> Suzette Leeming
> Ontario, Canada
>
>
>  On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Leonard C. Porrello <
> Leonard -dot- Porrello -at- soleratec -dot- com> wrote:
>
> Possible interpretations of John's comments:
>
> "Conflict with work" = "There isn't enough value to convince my employer
> to give me the time away from the office." If an employee could argue
> cogently that going to the meetings will result in significantly
> improved tech docs, I doubt many employers would object.
>
> "Commute time to get to meeting from work or from meeting to home" =
> "There isn't enough value to warrant the commute from my home." In other
> words, the cost is greater than the value. I bet the same people would
> have little or no problem with the commute time to a free dinner in a
> fine restaurant and Broadway show once a month.
>
> "Cannot get a mass transit connection" = "There isn't enough value to
> make the trouble of getting there worth while." I bet the same people
> would be able to find a way to get into the city for a free dinner in a
> fine restaurant and Broadway show once a month.
>
> "Takes away from family time" = "Because this is of little or no
> professional benefit, it will in no way enable me to compensate my
> family for the time it will take away from them."
>
> "Subject doesn't interest me" = stet.
>
> Regarding the financial side of things, it's arguable that people never
> say "money" because they never think, "this is too expensive." Instead,
> they think, "Hmmm, do I really want to spend $25 on an STC dinner? Maybe
> I'll go to a movie with my spouse instead or take my kids for ice
> cream."
>
> Leonard C. Porrello
>
>
>
>
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