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Subject:Re: Aging out was RE: job-hunt weirdness From:Chris Morton <salt -dot- morton -at- gmail -dot- com> To:techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com Date:Thu, 9 Jul 2009 14:10:54 -0700
What if ACC (acute corporate cynicism) has crept in?
> Chris (who'll be off tomorrow, so today is Fri.)
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Suzette Leeming
<suzette -dot- leeming -at- gmail -dot- com>wrote:
> Um, I believe in Canada we call that "age discrimination", which is a
> violation of our rights.
>
> Some companies love bright, young graduates fresh out of university (they
> work cheaper). Others like the young family type with responsibilities
> (less
> likely to move on). Other companies realize the value that an older, more
> experience worker can bring. No on-the-job training required - they hit the
> ground running, they've learned from past mistakes, and they bring
> maturity,
> wisdom, and experience to the job. In this environment, with so many people
> out of work, the experienced worked is a valued worker.
>
> Many companies have been started by "older" employees who have been forced
> into retirement. Tell your mother to either start a techwriting agency
> (something that also does well in a recession) or start a whole new career.
> She's entering the best stage of her life!
>
> How old is too old? If the eyes can no longer see, the ears can no longer
> hear, the fingers can no longer type, or if Alzheimer's has set it, then
> that is too old. Otherwise, age should be considered a benefit, not a
> deterrent.
>
> Suzette Leeming
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Leonard C. Porrello <
> Leonard -dot- Porrello -at- soleratec -dot- com> wrote:
>
> > What do people think about how old it is too old? Is it 40, 50, 60?
> >
> > Leonard
> >
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> > Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 1:51 PM
> > To: TECHWR-L Writing
> > Subject: Aging out was RE: job-hunt weirdness
> >
> > Dunno about Canada, but about the worst thing you can do in Northern
> > California is brag about (or even mention) being "long-in-the-tooth".
> > Kiss of death out here.
> >
> > I watched my highly competent, smart, professional mother, with years of
> > experience and business savvy, get involuntarily "retired" from
> > technical writing for the sin of being older than the people she was
> > interviewing with for a job. The last job she had, she was actually told
> > by her manager that if he'd known her age he would never have considered
> > her for the job. She did all the usual--wrote her resume to eliminate
> > about ten years of experience, concealed the date of her graduation
> > (even dropped a degree), dyed her hair, dressed younger. None of it
> > worked. After she got laid off, she never again got past an initial
> > interview.
> >
> > I figure I'm in my last or next to last job as an employee; if and when
> > I leave this one, I have at best a 50/50 chance of being hired full time
> > somewhere because I am too old. I'm keeping my freelance skills up, and
> > hoping my husband keeps his job so that his benefits can cover us.
> >
> >
> >
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