Re: Anyone need a job? Very badly?

Subject: Re: Anyone need a job? Very badly?
From: John Allred <jack -at- allrednet -dot- com>
To: techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 15:22:40 -0600

No offense taken, William. Whether you picked Arkansas or Mississippi,
you would have caught me either way. I left Mississippi to move to
Arkansas several years ago--a step up, economically, lol!
John
On 1/23/2012 3:01 PM, William Gaffga wrote:

I hope you didn't take my use of Arkansas as a disparaging. It was simply
an example of a state with a tech sector that still had a low
cost-of-living. My first thought was Mississippi but I thought that perhaps
the urban areas might provide a higher-than-expected rate.

And you're absolutely right. $25 to a contractor, who has to pay for their
own insurance, etc., is pretty tight here in the US.
--
William Gaffga
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[2]http://www.linkedin.com/in/willgaffga
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M: 805-405-6602
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On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 12:43 PM, John Allred [3]<jack -at- allrednet -dot- com> wrote:


William,
As one who does currently live in Arkansas, I can tell you that the
cost of living is, indeed, lower here than it is in other areas,
particularly Southern California. That said, even in Arkansas, $25/hour
doesn't go very far.
John Allred
On 1/23/2012 1:42 PM, William Gaffga wrote:

About a month ago or so I was contacted for a contract position at a nearby
biotech company (#1 in the world, circa 2006). They were looking for an
"experienced" tech writer, had a fairly extensive list of requirements, and
wanted to pay $25/hour. I could not contain myself and actually laughed
when the recruiter told me this. Now, this ain't someplace like Arkansas
with a low cost-of-living; this is Southern California.

I thanked the recruiter, told him that the wage was for a junior TW (or
someone exceedingly desperate) but that the skills requirement would be a
real impediment to finding a qualified applicant at that rate.

They, I believe, were hoping for someone who wanted the company name on
their resume, and indeed, I would be very happy to have it. Plus, the
commute of 10 minutes is 1/6th of what I do now, but for that rate ... I'd
be in the hole so fast ...
--
William Gaffga
[1]www.wilyguy.net/portfolio/
[2][4]http://www.linkedin.com/in/willgaffga
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S: willgaffga


On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 5:50 AM, Dan Goldstein
[3][5]<DGoldstein -at- riveraintech -dot- com>wrote:


According to [4][6]http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes273042.htm, that hourly
wage is around the 20th percentile or so nationally for tech writers. I
scrolled down to the "Annual mean wage of technical writers by area, May
2010" map and saw that Tampa is in of the lowest-ranking zones. Also,
the ad says nothing about the required skills and experience. So I'm
guessing that for an entry-level tech writer in Tampa, that wouldn't be
a shocking wage.


-----Original Message-----
From: William Sherman
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 9:17 PM
To: [[7]5]techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com
Subject: Anyone need a job? Very badly?

... I guess if you are desperate, it is better than working at
McDonald's. I would think these contract houses would become a bit
smarter and realize that the more they help us make, the more they make.
At this kind of pay, they have to get someone desperate who will quit at
the first chance of something better or someone with no experience who
will only make Adecco look bad.





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