Re: Suspending paying customers

["c. brown" <frameguru -at- YAHOO -dot- COM>]

scuse me, but once you've decided to charg4e and the person has paidd,
you may never revoke their subscription. All bets are off. I think
you'd best not charge and retain control.
Ann

--- P Newman <pnewman1 -at- HOME -dot- COM> wrote:
> Denise, Please carefully read your post again. Then
> ask your spouse to
> read it and my reply.  I explained that list
> privileges can usually be
> terminated for cause.  :-)
>
>
> Peter
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Denise Fritch <dfritch -at- intellicorp -dot- com>
> To: P Newman <pnewman1 -at- home -dot- com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 1:13 PM
> Subject: RE: Re: Suspending paying customers
>
>
> > Morning Peter,
> >
> > > The payment of
> > > money does not give you the right to
> unreasonably annoy others.
> >
> > This sentence appears to be the center of your
> objection to my
> posting. If
> > you will re-read my posting, I said nothing about
> ". . . the right
> to
> > unreasonably annoy others." Or, for that matter to
> "reasonably"
> annoy
> > others, what ever than might be.
> >
> > What I did say was that the list, when switched to
> a pre-paid
> subscription,
> > would become a business. A pre-paid subscription
> to the list would
> be viewed
> > by the law as would a magazine subscription
> (pre-paid for XX
> issues), home
> > insurance (pre-paid for a specified period), or
> for any commitment
> in which
> > money is pre-paid for a service. That money simply
> doesn't fall to
> the
> > business because it is paid. Until earned, on
> whatever basis of time
> or
> > services, those monies are unearned income.
> >
> > You may neither agree or like one or more of the
> laws enacted by
> society,
> > either social or business. Yet it is those laws
> that offer
> protection to all
> > parties. Particularly in business. This is
> certainly what my spouse,
> an
> > attorney and judge, keeps telling me.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> >      Denise L. Fritch
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: P Newman [mailto:pnewman1 -at- home -dot- com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 8:52 AM
> > > To: Denise Fritch
> > > Subject: Re: Re: Suspending paying customers
> > >
> > >
> > > The operator of the list has every right to set
> reasonable ground
> > > rules for its use. The operative term
> "Reasonable" is defined in
> > > advance so that at the time you pay your money,
> you not only agree
> to
> > > live by these rules, but you agree they are
> reasonable. The
> payment of
> > > money does not give you the right to
> unreasonably annoy others.
> > > Ejectment from the list for failure to abide by
> the rules,
> (whatever
> > > they may eventually be,) is no different than
> ejectment from a
> theatre
> > > or sporting event for outlandish acts. (an
> outlandish act at a
> > > theatre, such as yelling, certainly is
> acceptable at a sporting
> event.
> > > Obviously the rules vary and must be elastic,
> upon notice to all.
> > >
> > > Peter
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Denise Fritch <dfritch -at- INTELLICORP -dot- COM>
> > > To: <TECHWR-L -at- LISTSERV -dot- OKSTATE -dot- EDU>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 12:20 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Suspending paying customers
> > >
> > >
> > > > This post is not in response to any single
> suggestion dealing
> with
> > > > suspending or revoking posting privileges.
> Since I've noted
> several
> > > posts
> > > > suggesting that such actions would be
> "considered okay", without
> a
> > > nay
> > > > comment, I'll post a dissenting opinion.
> > > >
> > > > With this list moving to a paid service, the
> tech writers list
> will
> > > be
> > > > viewed by the law as a business. That means
> that under the law,
> if
> > > you pay
> > > > for a service you must receive that service.
> If an individual is
> > > suspended
> > > > from posting for a month, there is certainly
> no reason that
> person's
> > > > subscription to the list could not be extended
> by the same
> amount of
> > > time.
> > > > At least then, the legal requirements for
> service from a
> pre-paid
> > > > subscription would be met. If an individual is
> removed from the
> > > list, then
> > > > the unearned income from their subscription,
> that portion of
> time
> > > remaining
> > > > on the individual's subscription, should be
> refunded. Again,
> such
> > > actions
> > > > would meet the legal requirements of the law.
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
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